2 Wealth Show S3 Ep4 - What Season Are You In?
On Episode 4, Justin and Elizabeth interview Brett Snodgrass.
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Justin Bogard – Note Investor specializing in performing Residential Real Estate Debt. He finds deals and acquires them for his own portfolio as well as educates investors while walking them through the process of owning a Real Estate Note!
Super E – Real Estate Investor specializing in short-term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short-term tenants and manages everything in-between.
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2 Wealth Show S3 Ep4 - What Season Are You In?
On Episode 4, Justin and Elizabeth interview Brett Snodgrass.
Key Takeaways:
Resources and links discussed
Sponsored By: Integrated Health Solutions
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About the Hosts
Justin Bogard – Note Investor specializing in performing Residential Real Estate Debt. He finds deals and acquires them for his own portfolio as well as educates investors while walking them through the process of owning a Real Estate Note!
Super E – Real Estate Investor specializing in short-term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short-term tenants and manages everything in-between.
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Welcome to the 2 wealth show, a show that shares how you can create real wealth for you and your family. I'm one of your hosts, Justin Bogard. And my co-host is Elizabeth Sickles, AKA super E. I am a real estate note investor specializing in performing residential real estate debt. I find the deals acquire them for my own portfolio, as well as educate investors while walking them through the process of owning a real estate note. My co-host super E a real estate investor specializing in short-term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short-term tenants and manages everything in between. Our show was sponsored by bright path notes and Elizabeth Maora. You can find out more information by visiting our websites at brightpathnotes.com and elizabethmaora.com. Hey, Hey. Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode, episode number four of season three of the 2 Wealth show. Super E. How's it going? My friend,
Elizabeth Maora:It's going great. Now we finally have some warm weather in Indiana, so that's a very good thing.
Justin Bogard:Well, warmers relative to where you're at. Right? Cause right now I think it's hit 30 or 35 degrees maybe in Indianapolis area versus the, you know, under 2010, maybe zero. I don't know if it hit negative temperature where you were at. I think it was negative two, one day outside where we were at.
Elizabeth Maora:It's not fun. And we had some cancellations because of all the snow and stuff. Well, we don't like that. We like nice weather.
Justin Bogard:Yeah, yeah. School delays. Yeah. It's been a, it's been quite fun, but I think we're getting over the Hill, the hump of this February weather and hopefully turning the right direction. Um, so you, you have a big conference that you are kind of, I don't know what you wanna say hosting. Not really hosting, but you're putting together for the Indiana state CIREIA. Is that correct?
Elizabeth Maora:The team is yes. Um, Laura Guy and Tiki Perry are the big ones, um, putting it together, but yes, for the Indiana real estate investors association, we are special because we lobby for all real estate investors. Whether you do notes, if you do traditional rentals, if you're a wholesaler, no matter what you do, we are for real estate investors. So it's April 15th through the 17th. So whether you live here in Indiana and invest here, or if you are an out of state investor here in Indiana, we want to help protect our rights to invest in Indiana. So we have a power packed conference that we'd love for you all to attend.
Justin Bogard:Yeah, I noticed one of the speakers was, is it pace? Morby, mobi is Moby and Morby
Elizabeth Maora:That has changed. Um, that's our only change, unfortunately.
Justin Bogard:Well, I just ruined it. I'm sorry. I didn't know about that.
Elizabeth Maora:We have a lot of other great ones. Um, and we're working on getting a commercial speaker, um, for his time slot. So that'll be great. A lot of people are transitioning, you know, up to commercial properties.
Justin Bogard:Okay. Very cool. So that was April 15th to the 17th and part of it zoom and part of it is in person. Is that correct?
Elizabeth Maora:That's correct. Yeah. So if you've actually, the whole thing will be zoomed. So if you feel more comfortable zooming, that's great. We have that opportunity. And if you want to come in person, we have that as well.
Justin Bogard:Fantastic. All right, Elizabeth. Well, I'm pretty excited for today because we have a guest that both of us know pretty well and look up to a lot. And, um, I'm excited to get into this episode today. So do you want to introduce our guests?
Elizabeth Maora:I would love to. So we have a guy who has made quite a name for himself and his organization here in Indianapolis started out as simple wholesaling. So he was a wholesaler and now it's really cool because Brett has transitioned into his own brand. Um, and so we're going to talk about that as he's trans. So he went into real estate from teaching. Then he went from real estate into what he believes is his, is his here. So we have though, and we'd love to welcome the one and only Mr. Brett Snodgrass.
Brett Snodgrass:Yay. Ah, wow. I think I'm taking myself back to the basketball days, starting lineup coming out of locker room. What number were you? I was 34 in high school and 10 in college. So, and for what university did you play for? I played for Huntington college university. It says go Northern Indiana, South of Fort Wayne. And now number 10 for what? What's the mascot. We were, the foresters said, man, this is Huntington foresters. Our mascot was norm forester. He wore a flannel shirt and he had a big act. That sounds like me. I'm off camera, like Paul Bunyan with a big beard.
Justin Bogard:That's awesome. Well, Brett, welcome to our show. We've been friends for a little bit. Now we've done some deals together and I know, you know, Super E pretty well. I'm super proud of the man. You are the companies that you start and you, and you grow and that you step away from because I think that's one of the things we want to talk about today is how you get to a point to where you can get your freedom. Uh, the two Wells show super easy, and I started this because we just want to share really how to create wealth for your family and yourself, uh, to have a legacy to move on and on. So in real estate, as Elizabeth talked about, you know, you started simple wholesaling and which is a wholesale company, which for those of you that aren't familiar with wholesaling, it's where you can buy a property at a pretty low price from a, from a seller that's pretty desperate to, so you can turn around and exchange it or you flip it to another person that wants to renovate it or wants to rent it out or do things like that. And so if you want just lightly touch on kind of, kind of how you got into that business and then, and then, you know, we'll fast forward to now to what you're doing now.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah, no, thanks Justin They tried me on the show guys, Elizabeth that's pleasure. I haven't seen you guys in a while. So, uh, you know, kind of shut us all down and I haven't been out and just seeing people, but thank you so much for having me on, but yeah, I'm Brett Snodgrass. I'm the owner still the owner of simple wholesaling. And, uh, I've been doing it for about 14 years, got into it around 2007. Uh, and that was just a different time. Um, I was about 26, 27 years old at that time and I always wanted to do something entrepreneurial and I tried a lot of different things, network marketing, buying, and selling things on eBay. Okay. Whatever, I don't know. Um, I'm a hustle. Yeah. Flipping cars. And, and then I just started reading books and learning about real estate and rich dad, poor dad, and started hanging out with a couple of real estate investors. And I was looking at these guys and I was like, man, these guys aren't really that smart number. One thing. I was like, I can do whatever they're doing because I feel like I'm smarter. Um, so then yeah, 2007 was when we bought our first house, it was an REO property and I didn't have a lot of money. Uh, but our house was only$9,000. So I had about 5,000 and my dad had$5,000 and we bought the house for nine and we sold it for 15,000, made$6,000 in that very first deal. And, uh, that's kind of where it all started. And you know, I just tell the people out there. Um, it just takes one. Uh, it just takes a little bit of that first deal, that first taste to feel like, wow, I don't know what we just did, but let's just keep doing that exact same thing. And then kind of fast forward, 14 years later, I think, you know, I've been a part of probably maybe 3000 deals. Um, we flip up probably between 250 to 300 deals per year. Now we've been doing that for the last five or six years and, uh, have a small team here in Indianapolis and we got about six local people that work for us. And then we also have six virtual assistants that work outside of the United States. And, uh, they're part of our team just as much as everybody else. And so that's our team and, and I'm the owner, so it was pretty cool
Justin Bogard:Right on. And so one of your encounter partial now is, is Brian who you've kind of groomed in the business cause Brian really didn't have a lot of real estate experience right. When he first started teaming up with you.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah. Uh, they, yeah, that's right. I mean, so, uh, I knew Brian, he was a mutual friend. We used to hang out at Christmases with our, with our friends and, uh, we had some couples that kind of hung out. So that's how I knew Brian. I didn't know him super well. We, I saw maybe two to three times a year. Uh, but we hung out for a get together for dinner or breakfast one time. And I remember, uh, 2017, uh, we were having breakfast together and I just let a guy go from the company and that was hard. And we were talking about it and he talked about, he didn't want to teach. He was a teacher middle school teacher, math teacher, and he didn't wanna teach anymore. And I don't know, I just, whenever someone starts talking, the wheels started spinning and I was like, well, would you want to work for us? And that was like, honestly, the interview. And he was like, okay. Um, and he went home and talked to his wife about it. And he said, yes. And I never knew where it would turn into where he would just take the reins to, you know, he's, uh, an amazing leader, um, you know, background of teaching, which is awesome and leadership. And uh, so literally fast forward, three years later, he runs everything. He's the CEO of the simple wholesaling company. Uh, he runs everything and, um, you know, manages the team and, and I stepped out, uh, last year and uh, I said, Brian, this is, this is your baby now let's, let's go. And he said, yes, that's awesome. Brian is such a great guy too. That was just, uh, an excellent, uh, what Cadillac probably had a little bit to do with it as well.
Justin Bogard:But you have a really good judge of character. So I think you probably knew firsthand, you know how this, uh, like you said, the wheels are turning and you're thinking about how can I integrate this person into my system or my business or my process. And it's worked out fantastic for you, so kudos for you for setting that up. And that's just awesome. Thank you. And I want to just point back. Yeah, Brian, he didn't have any real estate experience. He didn't even know wholesaling was honestly at that meeting. Uh, but I want to just say you don't really have to, uh, he was a hard worker. He likes to learn new things and, um, and that's really all it was. So he learned how to do it, train how to do it. And there's really his leadership qualities. And I think that, you know, so if you're thinking, man, I don't know anything about real estate. Like none of us did at one point. Right. I'm sure you, you guys didn't either, um, still don't listen to podcasts, like the 2 wealth show. There you go. Pop it up.
Elizabeth Maora:Can you talk a little bit about how you built simple wholesaling because now you have different divisions of it, right. And so how you built it up and then being able to step back.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah. Um, so this isn't, you know, the first six or seven years, I was a one man show. Like I didn't know how to run a business. I, I knew how to do wholesaling. I knew how to look at houses and talk to sellers and sell houses. And I did it all, but I never knew how to hire anybody. Do any types of systems or processes didn't really know how to run a business. And then I started getting acquainted with a business coach and he started to coach me how to run a business. I joined a mastermind group and I learned how to run a business there. Um, and it turned into a real business and, um, you know, and it didn't happen overnight. It was really just kind of putting the puzzle pieces together. Right. And I started writing down the things I didn't want to do anymore in inside the business is things that I didn't like. And I started to hire those out. Rather it's an independent contractor or bringing someone on my team started to just hire each thing out piece by piece until I was not the business anymore. Um, so, so that was just kind of how it started. And then, uh, so I guess if, if someone's really looking to get the freedom and the scale of their business, uh, I think hanging out with people that are doing it, joining a mastermind group and doesn't have to be this really expensive mastermind group. It could be, you know, a few guys in your local market that just want to get together. Right. And just kind of share ideas, uh, having a business coach, I always believe if you want to have peak performance at anything, someone that can coach you through that I think is really important. Uh, so I've had a coach in business the last five or six years, and that's been crucial to our business. Um, and then having a plan, right. I mean, you know, it sounds very simple, but you know, we have a one page plan that we revisit every quarter. Right. And we have, we have our, our big things, our core values and our mission statement, and we have all that, but then we have our quarterly goals, our yearly goals. And, and we're trying to just, you know, hit these milestones. And a lot of times people set goals and they're like, I want to make X amount of dollars. Right. It always turns into, I want to make a hundred thousand dollars this year. That's a goal. Well, but then they forget about like all the things that they have to do to get to that. And that's really, I think what we started really focused on, like, we, we put a big number up there as far as the money goes, yes, we want to hit that. But like, here's the things that we want to do this quarter. We want to hire one acquisitions guy this quarter. Right. And then we would do that the next time we would say, okay, we want to write up a system on how do we want to lead comes in? How do we handle all that? So everybody that comes into our business, they know exactly what to do. And, and to start to build a system, well, five years later we got processes and systems and we know how to hire someone. We know how to, how to do things now. And it's become a really robust, um, system. Right. And, and it's just, I think to answer your question. Yeah. It's all about processes and systems. And I actually did a podcast the other day with Brian on the indy investor pod, which is another podcast that we do by Indianapolis investors. If you might check that out, but it was about systems and processes and I'm not a system and process guy. Right. And a lot of the people out there they're entrepreneurs, they're hustlers. They're not, they don't, they hate process. They hate systems. And, uh, and they don't think they're sexy. I'm going to tell you this. And here's my, my main goal was freedom. I main goal was to get out of the business and without a process and without a system, you will never be free. Yeah. And as soon as I figure that out, processes and systems became very sexy, too.
Justin Bogard:There you go necessary. Absolutely. What's nice to hear it took you six or seven years to do it all by yourself because now I don't feel so bad that I'll keep on doing stuff by myself, But it is amazing once when you become self-employed or an entrepreneur, how are you ever want to define yourself? You you'd get controlled. And you're like, I don't want someone else to do it because maybe they don't do as well, or as good as me. But you brought up a great point, which is what I've started to realize the past year is that one of the things you'd really don't want to do, what are the things that you can kind of suck at and why can't someone else do that for you? You know, it's not, it's not the, uh, it's not the, how it's the who, right. It's who can do that for you. So I, I, I liked that. And obviously you've been a role model for anyone in our real estate space locally and regionally here to show how a business needs to grow and also how to do things the right way. Cause I want to bring up, you know, I've done several deals with you, Brett, for you and your company. And it's always, you, you, you know, that you don't have to worry about anything if something happens after the deal, because you're going to be there to take care of or help solve the problem or work together to, to take it to fruition. You know? And that's the one things that I really was one of the things that I really admire about you and your company and everyone else follows suits as well. Yeah. I mean, as far as me and my personality, I mean, reputation is, is more important than money. Right. Um, I would rather do things the right way and have a good reputation, uh, then to make more money. And that's just the bottom line. So sometimes we have to do things I don't really want to do, and I've done things I don't really want to do.
Brett Snodgrass:And I've had to buy properties back or try to make things right here. And they're not, this is real estate, not it's going to be messy. Right. And we're going to get bashed here and there. I mean, you know, we're calling up sellers cold calling some times, or shooting a text out and evicting a tenant. I mean, that's just messy. And, uh, and but, but we have to try to do that in the correct and right way. And I feel like our team has tried to do that. Um, and it kind of just goes back to who we are, our core values and, uh, what do we want to be remembered for? And whether that's either me as a person or our company as a business, um, and this is really, really important. And it doesn't take very long to really lose your reputation. I think Warren buffet said, you know, I think it, it takes years decades to build up reputation and it takes five minutes to lose it. That's so true. Just do something stupid when you're done. Yeah. One bad deal or one bad press moment. And you're done for yeah. Yeah. Tough to recover from.
Elizabeth Maora:And can you talk a little bit to Brett because you've, you've expanded. You don't just do wholesaling. You also, not that that's not enough, but you are a rentals. So can you talk about how you expanded the real estate business and then how you actually stepped away from it? So now you can really focus on the Brett Snodgrass podcasts.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, so I do a few things. Obviously our company, our main company is simple wholesaling. That's like 80% of what we do, which really is just buying and wholesaling properties. It's a very active business, very transactional, and you got to keep doing it over and over and over again. I think it's a great stepping stone. And if you have a business, you can build freedom. I mean, look at me, me and I own a wholesaling business that I don't run that I'm not in. Right. So it is some sort of freedom for me now, is it the freedom, like buying a note like Justin and just having the money coming in and having someone service it, it's not that right. I still have to manage it. And we're always making small decisions and Brian's always bouncing ideas off of me. So it's not complete freedom. Uh, but it is, uh, you know, it is, uh, a lot of the freedom for me, but I also do, uh, some notes and some seller financing deals. That's how Justin and I work together. So I love doing that. That's a residual income for me. Uh, you know, and that's, that's where the wealth piece comes in. Um, and then I have some rentals that I do as well. And that's more of a tax shelter for me. So the most expensive expense that you have is your taxes. Maybe you don't see that because you're not writing a check for it, but you are paying a lot, especially if you start to inch up into that bracket. And I've seen people in our company that they're starting to make a lot of money now. And they're like, Oh my gosh, I'm paying a lot in taxes. So, um, so it's one thing to, you know, to make a lot of money, but the keep it right. Um, you know, not to say, I don't want to help out whatever the country, but I do think that I'm a better steward of my money than that. And the government would be, so I like to keep it. And, and it's not just that one year two. I mean, it's like, wow, if he could keep, let's just say a hundred thousand dollars instead of paying it to the government. I mean, this is where the wealth piece comes in, right? Let's say like, I'm in a certain tax bracket, I'm gonna have to pay a hundred thousand dollars a government. Well, let's say I don't, let's say I do some things over here in real estate, which is really cool. That's super legal that I can keep that a hundred thousand dollars. And let's say not only I do, I keep it this year, but what can I do with that to grow it over the next 20 years? And that's the wealth piece in this whole thing. So I do the act of business wholesaling, do residual income seller financing, and then I have rentals, um, as well. Um, and then just to kind of answer your question, why did I step out of the business? Uh, so this was, you know, March 20, 20, COVID just hit. And I was just burnout. I mean, wholesaling, when you're doing 250 to 300 deals a year, you know, that's, that's buying and selling. So that's, you know, 600 transactions a year. It's like a deal a day, right. You're, you're closing on a deal a day. Um, it's just a lot of work. So I was just burn out. I was like, man, I, I just want to get out. So, uh, I had Brian already, he was running the operations of the company and I wanted to do something different. I had been very successful, made a lot of money and it just wasn't doing it for me as much anymore to make an extra a hundred grand or 200 or 300 grand. Like, that's cool. But for me, it was just like, that's just not going to do it. It's just, it's just not there anymore. So like, I would have rathered stepped out, did something more that was aligned with my purpose. And I'm a man of faith. I want to do ministry things, mission, uh, things. And I want to impact people and I can impact people in a, in a good way within the business impact my people in the business. But honestly, I felt like I could impact them more if I stepped out. And that was, you know, now my team, like people think that you're doing them a favor by staying in the business. But honestly, I felt like I was a bottleneck. I wasn't good. Like, I didn't really care about growing as much anymore. And if I stepped out, they started stepping up. So like, it was just such a win-win. So it happened last year and, uh, in March is when I stepped out. And, um, it's just been great. We had the best year ever in 2020. And obviously when you have results like that, it gives you a lot of
Justin Bogard:Confidence. Absolutely. That's amazing. And so, so your, your new venture now is what you're calling the bread. It's not a grass channel and it's on YouTube is where you, you kind of coined all this. And so you, you have started a podcast before a few years ago. It was the simple wholesaling podcast. Now it's grown into the Indy investor pod. Is that right?
Brett Snodgrass:So we have a couple of podcasts are the number, the number one is help align me here. Yeah, no problem. Um, so the number I have the brettt Snodgrass podcast and it's on the brett snodgrass channel on YouTube. It's a video podcast. You can also listen to it on iTunes and Stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts at it's audio version. Okay. I've been doing a podcasting for four plus years. Um, I wanted to have more flexibility in what I did. Like I don't want to always talk about real estate all the time. And so I would just want more flexibility. So I talk about real estate a lot, but I talk more about purpose. I talk a lot about significance. Uh, I talk some about, you know, how do you run your family as an, you know, when you're an entrepreneur, when you're just so busy. Um, I talk about, I've had some missionaries come on the show that do real estate to support their mission. So like, I don't know. I just, I have a lot of people that, and it's a lot about purpose and a lot about significance. So check out the brett Snodgrass podcast, and then the brett Snodgrass channel on YouTube has the podcast, but we're doing other things on there to do a lot of teaching videos about freedom and, uh, you know, and that's just a huge, huge thing. I feel like a lot of people now asked you guys, you know, like, why did you start your business? A lot of people started their own business for freedom, right. Um, they say, Hey, why'd you start your business. I wanted to have flexibility. I want to have freedom. And then five years later they have no freedom. Right. Um, so I'd like to talk about that and how to build that. Um, I talk a lot about purpose on the show too, and insignificant. So check out the brett Snodgrass channel on YouTube and we're constantly, it's, it's a growing, I mean, it's kind of like another startup. We've only been doing it for a couple months now, so it's, it's very new, but, uh, we're of building upon itself.
Elizabeth Maora:One of your podcasts, you talked about the difference between success and significance, which I thought was really huge. So can you just share with our listeners about that?
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Um, so our, you know, the I've always been just different when it comes to entrepreneurship and success. Uh, I like making a lot of money. I do. Um, it's fun and it, but it's not even about the money. It's really about just, just growing something, achieving something, right. I like to be successful because I can achieve something. But if you go on YouTube and you type in success, you type in entrepreneurship, you type in a lot of that stuff, real estate investing, you know, you're typically going to see a guy sitting on his Lamborghini with his mansion in the back and, you know, he has got a beach house and he talks about millions, millions of dollars that he made, but he never really talks about, you know, the, the deeper things, uh, the significant portion, because that's all surface. And, you know, honestly at the end of the day, at the end of your life, like who really cares. Right. So I like to talk a little bit deeper than that and about significance. I'm like, okay, that's cool. But like, you know, what really is your purpose of all of this? What, you know, helps you, what makes you come alive? Like how does Brett become more of Brett? And, and, you know, for me, it was just all about how can I impact more people? How can I make a difference in the kingdom of God? How can I really change people's lives? Um, and this is just a way, this is the starting point of, of how I can do that. So, um, so I think we all reach a point as an entrepreneur. We love success to a certain point. And then if you're like me, it's like, okay, I've reached this level. What's next? And I think the next piece is okay, how can I be significant?
Justin Bogard:That's awesome. Brett seems like everything you do, you have like the Midas touch, everything turns into gold, like everything that you've learned and you teach and you, and you, you know, you talk to us about things. I mean, I know a little bit, and I both really look up to you and everything that you do, and it's just really amazing. So we're really honored to have you on the show and talk about all this stuff. So congratulations to all your success and everything that you've done and everything you've given back.
Brett Snodgrass:No, thanks. It's, it's awesome. Uh, I've obviously not everything turns to gold, uh, things like it. Um, you know, and I think that if you're listening to this, it really just depends on what season you're in. Um, because everybody's just in some different season. And for me, like, you know, I have a, I have a big family, I have young kids right now. I have a wife and I'm in this season of, I want to be available for my family. Right. And I have, I do have these aspirations. I want to do these big things too. Like I want to have, I want to have a big YouTube channel and impact a lot of people. I want to do these mission things and travel and things like that. But, but I'm in a season that I don't know, uh, if I, I don't want to sacrifice my family to do those things. So I think that if you're listening to this and you're watching this, you know, think about what season it you're in. Um, I can always later do those big things. And, but right now, again, like I'm just in the season, I'll be available to my family and I don't think I'll ever regret it. I think about regrets. And I'm like, Hey, if I go out and I'm traveling all the time and I'm speaking, and I'm doing all these big things, but I lose my family over here. I think I will regret it. But if I don't do all the traveling and speaking right now and I'm with my family, I don't think I'll regret it. So I think, you know, if you're watching this, what season are you in? And, uh, you know, start to just take it from there.
Justin Bogard:Awesome. Well spoken my friend well-spoken. So, um, you S you had mentioned to me kind of offline and stuff that you, you have a, you know, your kids and stuff, and one of your kids was having a little bit of some, some, um, I don't know if it's food allergy issue or digestive system, uh, issues that you mentioned that you, uh, your wife had to take your, your son over to was your son, right? Yeah. Take your son out of state to get some, get some help or to get on a program, to help with your son. So, you know, I hope everything's okay with your son and mind sharing about what happened.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah, definitely. Um, so, you know, I have a very, uh, just chaotic family. Um, it's crazy because I have a 14 year old daughter who's going through her 14 year old things. Uh, I have a year old son who was diagnosed ADHD. So, you know, he's got a lot of things going on. And then my five-year-old, he is the one then the hospital right now, uh, in a food therapy center. So basically he has something on ARFID. It's like an anxiety food intake disorder where he doesn't eat like anything. So it's become just worse and worse and worse throughout the years. And we've tried to do things. We've read a lot of books, we've listened to podcasts, we've done all this research on how can we get him to get nutrition, right. So it's become a point where he isn't getting nutrition in his, in his diet. So, uh, there's a couple of hospitals that do a very intensive food therapy program. And so my wife and him are in grand Rapids, uh, at Helen DeVos children's hospital for the next seven weeks. So they come home on the weekends, but they're there throughout the week. So I'm here with the rest of the kids. Um, and you know, which is great. I thought, honestly, I thought, Oh my gosh, this is going to be crazy and terrible because, you know, I'm, I don't know if I'm built to be a stay at home dad. I like to, I like to work, right. And I like to do projects and things like that, but last week was our first week. And honestly I really enjoyed it. Um, and I just kind of transferred some of the things too to my home. Right. And it's funny when you come up with systems and processes and creating, I was like, I started to do things within my home. And, Uh, and so I got some of that fulfillment as well. So, um, but you know what I'm really thankful for. And my wife and I actually talked about this over the weekend that I can actually do this. Yes. Because if I was the normal person who had to work nine to five every single day, and I couldn't choose, it would be really, really hard. But like, as an entrepreneur, I have the freedom and honestly, freedom just gives you options. So I have the option to stay home and that's just, it's just a blessing. So I'm super thankful. That's cool. That's very cool. Well, I know your son's going to get better at, it sounds like he's going the right place and he's got mom with him. So, um, I know it's tough to not see your kid all week and then just see them on the weekends, but, uh, hope for the best. And hopefully it comes out and he's all back to normal. Thanks, Justin. And appreciate him. Yeah. Yeah. Elizabeth, did you have anything to add for today before we close out? Know, we're getting close on time here.
Elizabeth Maora:Yeah. I just want to say, excuse me, Brett, that I really appreciate that, you know, you are, you talk about your faith so much and that's very integral to your company also, and it's so interesting because it's really kind of a tight rope that you walk with that. Right. But it's very seamless with you guys. Like, that's just, that's just who you are. So, you know, just as someone that's, you know, in the business and just, you know, to see other businesses actually lead, um, and then kind of walk that line is really nice, so kudos to you and, and your entire team for that. Thank you.
Brett Snodgrass:Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you. I mean, that's just how I, how I kind of started the business. Just kind of having that be a core, uh, part of our business and you're right. I mean, we don't beat people over the face with it, but it's just one of those things. It's just who we are. If you don't want to follow that, then know we're not going to say anything about it, but, um, but yeah, I think it's just a core as a core value of ours, so appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. I concur with super E so. Cool. All right guys. Well, um, I'm Justin Bogard from bright path notes.
Elizabeth Maora:I'm Elizabeth with Elizabeth Maora
Justin Bogard:All right. And, uh, Brett Snodgrass, check him out on the Brett Snodgrass, YouTube channel, sorry, Brett, a fumbled there. And then also the Brett Snodgrass podcast as well for the audio version as well. So, uh, Brett, we could have had probably 15 more episodes of you and all your stories and your accolades and your history of how you've done things. We really appreciate you being on the show. Truly we do, uh, we're very humbled and honored that you are a part of our local community and you help us all grow. So thank you very much. No, thanks, Justin. And thanks a little bit. Appreciate being on the show. All right, guys, next time. See ya. Everybody 2 wealth show is produced by justin Bogard and super E countered by Brightpath notes and Elizabeth Maora. Thanks for listening and watching for our show.