2 Wealth Show S2 Ep2 – Who is Super E?
Super E - Gets interviewed by Justin Bogard in the 2nd episode of season 2.
Get to know who Super E is! Justin will get into Super E’s personal life and previous business life.
Key Takeaways:
Resources and links discussed
About the Hosts
Justin Bogard – Note Investor specializing in performing Residential Real Estate Debt. He finds deals and acquires them for his own portfolio as well as educates investors while walking them through the process of owning a Real Estate Note!
Super E – Real Estate Investor specializing in short-term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short-term tenants and manages everything in-between.
Connect with the Hosts
2 Wealth Show S2 Ep2 – Who is Super E?
Super E - Gets interviewed by Justin Bogard in the 2nd episode of season 2.
Get to know who Super E is! Justin will get into Super E’s personal life and previous business life.
Key Takeaways:
Resources and links discussed
About the Hosts
Justin Bogard – Note Investor specializing in performing Residential Real Estate Debt. He finds deals and acquires them for his own portfolio as well as educates investors while walking them through the process of owning a Real Estate Note!
Super E – Real Estate Investor specializing in short-term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short-term tenants and manages everything in-between.
Connect with the Hosts
Welcome to the 2 wealth show, a show that shares how you can create real wealth for you and your family. I'm one of your hosts, Justin Bogard and my cohost is Elizabeth Sickles, AKA super E. I am a real estate note investor specializing in performing residential real estate debt. I find the deals, acquire them for my own portfolio, as well as educate investors while walking them through the process of owning a real estate. Note, my cohost, super E, a real estate investor specializing in short term rentals and the management of them. She connects investors with short term tenants and manages everything in between. Our show was sponsored by BrightPath notes and Elizabeth Maora. You can find out more information by visiting our websites at brightpathnotes.com and ElizabethMaora.com.
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Super E:Welcome to the 2 wealth show, a show that teaches you how to make real wealth in the real estate industry and I'm your host, Elizabeth Maora-Sickles and I'm Justin Bogard.
Justin Bogard:Welcome. Today we're going to mirror kind of what we did in episode one. I'm actually going to interview super E now. We're going to learn a little bit more about super E dive into her personal life.
Super E:Oh, interesting. So why don't you tell us who our sponsors are. So our sponsors for today's show is BrightPath Notes. That's me and Elizabeth Maora. That's you. It is me.
Justin Bogard:Awesome. So thanks for interviewing me on that first episode. That was pretty fun.
Super E:That was fun. It's always good to get to know people a little bit more.
Justin Bogard:Yeah. You said you thought you threw some curve balls out there, but I don't think you really did. No, I dunno. I thought they were good questions. I didn't think they were bad questions. No, I like to ask good questions and I like how it wasn't really focused on business either.
Super E:Well, because there's more to you than just business. So what's, you know, what is behind what's behind the BrightPath?
Justin Bogard:I was watching the office, so that's why he did the robot one time and somebody had put oil in him so he would get moving again, like the 10 man. Anyways, I digress. I'm sorry. So Elizabeth Maora-Sickles. So why do you name your company? Elizabeth Maora if your name is Elizabeth Maora-Sickles. Why didn't you say Elizabeth Maora-Sickles.com?
Super E:Because when I do get married, I won't have to change the name of my company. So I'm kind of genius. Yeah, I'm kind of old fashioned. So when I do get married I'll change my last name to my husband's name.
Justin Bogard:That's a smart thinking. So that's smart thinking. So Maora is your middle name?
Super E:It is and I was, yes, I was named after a lady that my mom cleaned for and we're still friends with. Her name was Maora McCoy. She was an entrepreneur as well actually. Yeah. What does she do? Um, she had a grocery store and a flower shop. Oh cool. So yeah. And then we're still friends with her daughter. Um, Ellie is now in her, Ellie is 86 so still friends with the family of the lady that I'm named after.
Justin Bogard:That's awesome. So you asked me a pretty good question and I, I have to ask you the same one is like what gets you up in the morning? Cause I thought that was a great question cause it kind of, I had a pause but I,
Super E:I was just being truthful or like wakes me up. Like you tell me what makes me, what wakes me up in the morning is just the fact that I always feel like I can do more, that I can be more, there's a lot to do. I also, I, I don't have my own kids yet. So I have two nephews that are 12 and like I always want to, I'm the favorite aunt, I want to say the favorite aunt and I just want to do great things so that they, you know, will think that auntie, E is like number one areas. But you're the fun aunt, aren't you? Oh get this, I had them for three days over new years. We went to sky zone twice. New year's Eve night. We went to sky zone and they love Ben and Jerry's ice cream and they asked me like, auntie E can we have ice cream for dinner? And I said, of course we can. Exactly. Then they say, can we get two pints each? Of course you can guys. Elizabeth, Elizabeth,
Justin Bogard:you're going to have to tone that stuff down when you get them full time. They get kids full time. Okay.
Super E:Yes. That was bad news. Ice cream and sugar at night.
Justin Bogard:Do they go to bed? Oh man, that's a recipe for disaster. I understand. I was just, you know, they were there for a couple of nights, but man you won't catch me doing that. The sugars out of their system by like 4:00 PM so that we can just kind of just like mellow down, settle down. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I always see you posting stuff on Facebook about your nephews. You have nieces as well?
Super E:No, just nephews. Two nephews. They'll be 13 the end of this month, so, okay. Yeah, so I call him my boys. They're my nephews, but my boys, so a lot of the twins they are, they're twins. Twins. Cool. Yes. So was the mom a twin or the dad twin? The mom. So they're my brother's kids. So
Justin Bogard:brother married a twin? Yes. And so this is the other twin married as well?
Super E:Yes. He, so, um, the mom is, her twin is a boy and he's married, but he does not have twins. He has a daughter. So I'm already confused.
Justin Bogard:I'm lost. Okay, I digress. So Elizabeth, we know why your business name, it was Elizabeth Maora, we know what gets you up in the morning. Uh, so do you have a, you have a brother, do you have any other siblings? Okay. And then does your brother live here? Uh, in Indiana?
Super E:He does. He's just an hour and a half away. So my family is, and they're an hour and a half as well. So it's nice that I'm close with them or distance wise, close with them now. So.
Justin Bogard:Okay, so hour and a half, like in Indiana?
Super E:In Indiana. Yes.
Justin Bogard:So I know that Elizabeth, you came from the corporate world and you're very educated person and you are in kind of like the auto industry. Is that right? A little bit of everything. And so you were in Michigan before you came here in Indianapolis, so talk to me a little bit about that last job that you were at and, and why you were so focused on, you know, getting out of the rat race and getting, getting the good old Indianapolis.
Super E:Oh gosh. Um, the department Ford recruited me to come work for them, um, and I worked on vehicles coming out in the next 15 to 20 years on the technical and on the finance side.
Justin Bogard:Wait, wait, wait. Vehicles that come out the next 15 to 20 years. So when you left the corporate world a few years ago, so you know, it's going to happen seven or eight 10 years from now.
Super E:Oh yeah. In 2014 I was working on the, I mean, yeah, it's really cool.
Justin Bogard:Amazing. I had no idea there was that much projection.
Super E:Absolutely. Huge amount of planning. Huge amount. Yeah, it's really cool. Even the, I've always, um, been on the tech side in, in my career. So it was cool to see everything that was coming up in that as well. But the issue with where the work itself was really cool. But, um, the department that I was in was very hierarchial, very old school. Um, so it was an extremely difficult transition. Um, especially, I worked the least amount of hours I'd ever worked. I had the, I didn't have a company cell phone, I didn't have a company credit card. I didn't travel, I wasn't allowed to talk in meetings even though if I put the presentation together and my boss presented it and that was because of the level I was. Oh wow. Yeah, it was, even if they're asking him a question and he didn't cause he just, Oh, he's a very smart guy, but I worked with the team and put your presentation together. Right. He's not going to know right. You, you are not, you are not to say anything. So, um, and it was just, it wasn't wrote anywhere, but it was, you could pick up on all that kind of stuff.
Justin Bogard:So it wasn't because you were a female or a male, it was really because the level, the level of the business says you are this person, you do not, you do not speak in the meetings,
Super E:you're an L I think I was an L L six and if I had been an L L five then then it would have been okay for me to wow to actually give answers and to give some input. Um, it's kind of sad. It, I mean, and this was just, I left corporate in 2016 I mean this is just four years ago. Wow. So yeah, it was very, very interesting. Very interesting. And I had also, I had a former colleague of mine that saw me, um, and had said, Oh, what's your now executive goddess? So, um, I've put that my signature at Ford and I, I've, I did it to see how long I can get away with it. Yeah. And I got away with it for almost two months and I would get responses cause I had to send reports out to people I never met and you know, all that kind of stuff. But I would get emails from people to, Hey, I love your title. And then my boss, the one day he said, Hey, about your title and I said No problem. Right. I'll go change it. So I went to my desk and my official title was product planning analyst. Product planning analyst. Okay. Yeah. I can't go from executive goddess to product planning analyst. That sounds like a huge demotion. It does yes. So I put product planning guru and this was around six o'clock on a Monday and then Tuesday the next day by noon I had an email from my boss telling me exactly what my title was. Um, so, and that was in about March of 2016 and I was like, you know, I should probably think about, this is not going to be a place where I'm going to continue to move up the ranks, you know? Yes.
Speaker 5:And is there, is there like a, was there like a, you know, the person that was above you, you had to wait until they moved on before you could move up that level or they had availability for you to move up to that LL five?
Super E:The LL six, there was availability. I would've had, I would've stayed in the division, but I would have gone to a different group, which would have been fine. Um, but there was just no way it was so steeped in old school. The other thing is, is some of those, I mean overall it's a great organization, right? But, but part of the problem you have with people that have pensions is that, you know, they've been there 30 plus years. They're not leaving whether they're a great employee or not, they're just hanging around for their pension. So I did have some really great colleagues, but also, man, some of those people that they needed to go a long time ago. Um, so I'm grateful. I had 15 years in corporate. I worked all over the world. And awesome. Yeah, I mean it's definitely helped me and having my own business, but it's like, yeah, I don't think I should think about my exit plan. So that was in March and I said, okay, I'm going to resign in July. And so that's what I did.
Speaker 5:So you had your, your future set. You said I'm leaving this and you wanted to get into real estate or did you not know you want to get into real estate?
Super E:I didn't, I didn't know if I was going to be doing real estate or natural health. I have a real passion for natural health. So, um, and that's, and so I took six months to travel and spend more time in both areas of that and decided on the real estate.
Speaker 5:Let's talk about that travel. So I'm pretty sure you've been to some pretty cool places that I've, I've never been to Europe or anything like that. I have really only been to the U.S.
Super E:and Mexico areas. You got to get out my friend, maybe I've crossed the Canadian border once I think through Niagara falls. Okay. I
Justin Bogard:may have stepped on Canada real quick. So where have you been? Where is the most exciting places that Elizabeth Maora-Sickles has been?
Super E:So professionally or both. Okay. I've spent a lot of, a lot of time in Japan that was really fun. So this is, you know, the Japanese, you know, they're, they're very, they're much smaller people than us. I figured out though how to gain weight in Japan. So, you know, portion sizes are like this. Um, I was miserable the first time I went. I was there for six weeks and then hated it. I mean, now I love it. I've been back many, many times, but so Japan was really, really cool. Especially, um, we had a colleague that every weekend we went to one of the different shrines. So I've been to all of the temples all over the major shrines in Japan. Um, that was really cool. I'm so Japan. I also, I love Aruba. I loved Turks and Caicos. Okay.
Justin Bogard:That's just in the kind of by the keys area, right?
Super E:Yes. And the British West Indies. Yes. BWI, yes. Close to the Cayman islands. Maybe. No, I can tell you
Justin Bogard:that's my familiarity. I know Cayman islands and then the Cuba is a little bit above that. And then like the Florida keys are above that. That's, that's where I know that's my, yeah, that's my
Super E:locator.
Justin Bogard:But I know that the Caymans are British West Indies as well.
Super E:Yes, they are. They have their own currency though.
Justin Bogard:They call it, the K man. K man, the Cayman islands.
Super E:Nice. Yeah. They have their own little monies. So very nice. Yeah. And Brazil, just FYI. Brazil is amazing. Just be safe. But it is absolutely Rio de Janeiro, if you've watched the, especially since you have kids. Um, the video Rio. Oh yeah, the cartoon. Yeah. That is Rio de Janeiro. Awesome. Yeah. So then
Justin Bogard:you've been to some pretty cool spots. I know you went to China for um, for pleasure, right? Recently, well in 2019. Right. So what was that like compared to Japan?
Super E:Oh, totally different. Um, even real estate wise, I'm in China and all the cities that, that we were in there are, and we're driving through as well. There are tons of buildings everywhere, commercial buildings, huge buildings that are completely empty. Wow. So yes, I had heard that and that's, that's very true. Their culture is very different. So they, even though they see you, they will run right into you. Like there's no personal space. Oh wow. And the Japanese, you do not touch a Japanese person. And even in the subways when I was in Japan and it would, it's rush hour, they are completely packed. You are in the train, there is absolutely no room, but there is still space between you and the other person.
Justin Bogard:It really varies quite a ruler right in between somebody that yep. You get up space right there.
Super E:Yes. They will not touch you.
Justin Bogard:So what if you accidentally bump into them? Is that just
Speaker 5:they just realize that happens or do they freak out and say something in Japanese? It just depends, but yeah, very, very different. Very different cultures. Wow. It's interesting. I don't know if I'd want to go to China. Oh, it's a beautiful country. So what cities were you in? Like Beijing or Beijing? Um, we were in um, Oh my gosh. Shanghai who she and we went to the great wall, so we saw the great things. It was great. I got these bracelets are, um, they're Jade they, I bought them when I was in China, so, um, definitely have a special meaning. But yeah, so if anybody ever gets a chance, and also you can go to China by yourself. Like you don't need to go through a tour. We thought that we did just because it's China. I don't speak Chinese, but you can definitely, we did the subway ourselves. Like you can, you can figure it out. So no, it's not and it's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous. Well, let me, I'll get out there out there. So Elizabeth, you are becoming more and more a, um, pioneer locally here in our regional area with your Airbnb expertise in your project skills with hosting and kind of property managing these short term rentals. I don't wanna say Airbnb loosely. I mean, short term rentals. It's not just Airbnb. Right. What has your experience been like from the very first one that you've managed to fast forward to today to whatever you're managing today? Like, what, what does that been like then? Like it was like a whirlwind or like chaos, like what
Super E:I paint a picture for me. Yeah. Chaos is a good word, man. So, so many ups and downs. Um, you know, as you know, running your own business. Things I was not prepared for at all. And especially like in corporate, I mean pretty much, you know, would always hit the goals and then, you know, you get into your own business and I didn't know what the goals would be, so I had these huge, you know, crazy goals and um, and then too, I will say that I've learned, so just me personally, it's even still today. Like I think my mom would probably kill me if I used illegal drugs. So it's, I just, I just, I don't have a desire and I have learned more about drugs than I ever thought I would. So, um, I've learned a lot about a lot of different things that never in a million years. Um, but at the end of the day, my team and I mean we provide, you know, really great housing for people that are coming to Indy no matter why they're, they're coming. So it's definitely been a whirlwind. Great days, really bad days.
Speaker 5:Um, also. And just the whole thing that makes it makes it all work. Yeah. I forgot about the, the drugstores you told me some of those drug stories kind of offline and that just kind of funny cause I guess because I'm in the business I wouldn't think, wouldn't think anything of it, but I'd be like, Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean people were just casually getting in there and they, they feel like they can do whatever they want.
Super E:Yeah. And so one of the other things is that things that have been happening in hotel rooms forever, well now those are spilling out into the short term rentals. So, you know, it's just part of it. I mean 95% of our guests are really great. It's, it's that 5% that causes,
Speaker 5:yeah. Heartburn and loss of sleep, yeah, I get it. Well you've been a trooper. I know you've grown a lot. And so have you reached your milestones, um, that you wanted to reach when you started this business? Are you to the point to where you realize you're looking back going, you know what I I want above and beyond or I'm not there yet. Or where do you feel like you're at today from when you first started?
Super E:Oh, I'm not even close.
Speaker 5:Your, I know your expectations will be too high.
Super E:Yeah. Not even, not even close. Um, but at least I'm dialing them in to be more realistic now. So that's, that's a big help. Plus I have, um, I'm a big believer in coaches, so I actually have two coaches. I have a a life coach, um, and then an actual business coach. And so Mitch, well, and Keith helps me in the business too, but Mitch is very focused on the business, so he's like, well, how about if you be a little bit more realistic, Elizabeth?
Speaker 5:Yeah. That, that is a good point. Um, I found myself doing the same thing. I'm just like, Oh, I'm going to do all these things. And you, you kind of get grounded quickly realizing like, Oh, I don't, I don't know the right path to go down, like could do some trial and error. So I'm sure you've had some trial and error and you're part of the business, but uh, you know, I guess that's why you flourish so much as you made it past that that you know, imaginary 24 month window that most people kind of figure out if this is going to be longer term or not. And they're right. I mean for me it was about 24 months going, okay, this is it. Like am I gonna be able to start flourishing or am I going to fade away and just do something else? So it just is kind of nice to feel like, at least from my perspective, I think you've gotten over that hump to where you're definitely able to shine and you've got a lot of directions you're going, you got EM university, right? You've got all your, your property management stuff, you're working with investors, you're helping them with like basically being a boots on the ground for them because a lot of them are not even in this area. Right. They're spread across the world or spread across the United States. Yeah. It's pretty cool what's going on here in Indy. It is, it is, it is. I like other cities, I see things going on, but seems to be a lot of focus with Indy as far as short term rentals. And we were at a meeting last night where, um, you guys were talking about how the rules are kind of in our favor here at Indianapolis versus other cities. You, you kinda handcuffed with certain rules and requirements and taxations and they just, they want to, you know, poopoo on short term rentals. Some cities for whatever reason of your geography of it in Indy pretty for right now being lenient with it, which is great. So our rents seem to be high, right. Compared to other places. So. Awesome. Well, we've come to the end of our interview, unfortunately. I know there's a lot more questions. I could ask you, but um, tell us a little bit about EM university before we kind of sign off for today.
Super E:All right. So I have a real heart for the education side on having other hosts be really great hosts. So my team and I spent eight months last year putting together an online course so that other hosts can either be better or if you want to get into business, we go through everything. So, uh, so we're really excited about it and we do a coaching call every week and we have our Facebook groups. So I'm just, the education has really become a big, big, big part of what I'm focusing on this year. I'm moving forward, so
Speaker 5:absolutely. Yeah. I'm glad you, you've done that. And I didn't know about this till like a month or two ago when he actually released it. So you kept that, that card close to your chest. You know, how dare you keep things.
Super E:Okay.
Speaker 5:No, but I'm really proud of you. You definitely flourished a lot. That's this EM university, I think is going to be huge for you, and it's going to help a lot of people understand how to monetize to make this a business for themselves and have it be really the super, super hosts. So, well, this was the, the 2 Wealth Show sponsored by BrightPath notes and Elizabeth Maora. You can catch these video episodes on our YouTube channels, which is BrightPath notes and Elizabeth Maora. So I look forward to having more interviews this year. And, um, until next time everybody see you. Thank you.
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Intro/Outro:2 Wealth Show is produced by Justin Bogard and super E sponsored by BrightPath notes and Elizabeth Maora. Thanks for listening and watching for our show.